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so if it bears more heavily on handicapped disabled people it may very well be against the law. that's where the test is. we don't have a ruling yet but it really will be cutting-edge once we find out the answer to that question. >> interesting. potentially, richard, it macon clued that there has to be different kinds of personality tests based on what applicants might be eligible or looking into employment? >> yeah. fred, i think the sole criteria here will be whether or not this test disadvantages hearing impaired or speech impaired. that's the issue. whether disadvantages this group of people because if i want does not disadvantage them and the person is crying sour grapes because they didn't get the job these tests are going to be permissible, they are allowed to be used. tough economic times right now and employers can use a vast array of criteria to determine which employees they think will be best suited for their jobs and this is one criteria for hem to use. it'slegitimate. i think this is going to be legitimate and i think this case will get thrown out, fred. >> interes
so if it bears more heavily on handicapped disabled people it may very well be against the law. that's where the test is. we don't have a ruling yet but it really will be cutting-edge once we find out the answer to that question. >> interesting. potentially, richard, it macon clued that there has to be different kinds of personality tests based on what applicants might be eligible or looking into employment? >> yeah. fred, i think the sole criteria here will be whether or not this...
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mean that we should be supporting these groups that -- many of whom believe many some kind of shaara law and such? should we be supporting these groups more? i doubt that that is a place that conservatives would be comfortable, and romney, as a result, even there is a little bit vague other than saying that obama has done it wrong. he doesn't really tell us specifically what he would do. >> let's talk a little bit about iran. the "new york times" writes recently as august that despite increasingly painful sanctions and covert programs called olympic games that aimed to show the iranian program with cyber attacks, iran has enriched uranium from about one bomb's worth when mr. obama took office in 2009 to the ekwifl i want of about five bombs worth today. we recently saw the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu draw this red line a few weeks ago. is there any daytime between these two as to how tough they're going to get on iran? >> not really. look, the truth of the matter is it's important to understand that iran has a very extensive civilian nuclear program, and when you talk about
mean that we should be supporting these groups that -- many of whom believe many some kind of shaara law and such? should we be supporting these groups more? i doubt that that is a place that conservatives would be comfortable, and romney, as a result, even there is a little bit vague other than saying that obama has done it wrong. he doesn't really tell us specifically what he would do. >> let's talk a little bit about iran. the "new york times" writes recently as august that...
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laws the corporal discipline of children by their parents. now the bill redefines child abuse laws that calls any act of pain. the son of vp joe biden said the old law needed to be changed because it had been difficult to prosecute cases where a child was too young to speak, or otherwise nonverbal. criminal defense attorney holly hughes is here. okay, critics say it could go too far and be misused. how do you think a law like this will be interpreted in the courts? >> i think it is coming back. it will be challenged. it will not pass constitutional muster, what is called vague and over-broad. and anything you do, essential that causes pain. well, what happens when your child is about to run into the street and you snatch them back by the arm and that causes pain. have you suddenly -- are you on the hook for child abuse, are you going to be arrested for that? this is craziness. >> my parents would be life in prison. >> oh, my word, exactly, mine, too, mine too. i was just talking about that. productive members of society. you know, neither one
laws the corporal discipline of children by their parents. now the bill redefines child abuse laws that calls any act of pain. the son of vp joe biden said the old law needed to be changed because it had been difficult to prosecute cases where a child was too young to speak, or otherwise nonverbal. criminal defense attorney holly hughes is here. okay, critics say it could go too far and be misused. how do you think a law like this will be interpreted in the courts? >> i think it is coming...
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. >> alabama has virtually the identical stand your ground law that florida ha. the officer in this case can probably say he was -- he felt he was in danger of his life and he was standing his ground and shooting. i'm betting as this proceeds you may see that law we heard so much about in this case in florida rear it's ugly head in alabama. >> the officer involved in the shooting has been put on administrative leave until the investigation is complete. >>> documentary filmmaker ken byrnes is defying a subpoena issued by the city of new york over his latest film "central park 5." it's a move mee about the five men exonerated in the 1989 central park jogger rain case. they want his outtakes, but burns wants the investigators to prove they need them. susan candiotti has more. >> this documentary, the latest project of ken burns, whose daughter is co-director, telling the story of five black and latino teenagers. they were convicted of raining and brutally beelting a white female jogger in new york's central park in 1989. >> it was a huge media story. there was a lot
. >> alabama has virtually the identical stand your ground law that florida ha. the officer in this case can probably say he was -- he felt he was in danger of his life and he was standing his ground and shooting. i'm betting as this proceeds you may see that law we heard so much about in this case in florida rear it's ugly head in alabama. >> the officer involved in the shooting has been put on administrative leave until the investigation is complete. >>> documentary...
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the law dates back to 1954. it's been on the books now for over 60 years, and what they want to do is to get a church penalized so they can challenge the law and take this to court and attempt to get this ban overturned. we'll see if it works. >> so i guess is the interpretation as to why the irs or no other government agency has engaged in this is because they don't want to feel entrapped since it appears as those these pastors or churching are actually taunting the government to take action? >> there are different theories about why the irs has been lax on enforcement from different sides. you know, some say that they don't want to get in trouble from churches and get a democratic administration, say, with president obama in trouble with the clurhurches by threateg them. others don't have enough agents to enforce this law. it's unclear because the riirs so mum and when they penalize it's done privately, it's unclear about how much enforcement there really is. it's expected there's little, and exactly why the e
the law dates back to 1954. it's been on the books now for over 60 years, and what they want to do is to get a church penalized so they can challenge the law and take this to court and attempt to get this ban overturned. we'll see if it works. >> so i guess is the interpretation as to why the irs or no other government agency has engaged in this is because they don't want to feel entrapped since it appears as those these pastors or churching are actually taunting the government to take...
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. >> cnn legal contributor paul allen said alabama law may well come into play in this case down the road. >> alabama also has virtually the identical stand your ground law that florida has, so do you know that the officer in this case can probably say he was -- he felt that he was in danger of his life and he was standing his ground in shooting. so i'm betting as this proceeds, you may see that law that we've heard so much about in the zimmerman case in florida rear its ugly head in alabama. >> the officer involved in the shooting has been put on administrative leave until the investigation is complete. >>> now to pennsylvania where the state's deputy attorney general and his wife are accused of severely abusing two children they adopted. police arrested douglas and kristin barber after the kids had a doctor's visit. investigators say the doctor noticed several fractures on the 18-month-old girl's head, and the 6-year-old girl's appeared star. they were charged with endangerment. their attorney has not commented. >>> we know the meningitis outbreak has spread to nine states and that
. >> cnn legal contributor paul allen said alabama law may well come into play in this case down the road. >> alabama also has virtually the identical stand your ground law that florida has, so do you know that the officer in this case can probably say he was -- he felt that he was in danger of his life and he was standing his ground in shooting. so i'm betting as this proceeds, you may see that law that we've heard so much about in the zimmerman case in florida rear its ugly head...
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law enforcement is already stretched thin. so the notion that we're going to enforce the new speed limits a lot better than the old speed limits is just false. >> well, that's what texas -- in texas they have a highway near austin, a stretch of highway where they will raise the speed limit to 85 miles per hour, and the texas department of transportation says, hey, we can do that because the highway was built expressly for people going fast and it is safer. how do you respond to that? >> i am sure that they have designed this highway well. people will be able to travel faster. it is safer than the old highways. it would be even safer if the speed limit were 80 miles an hour or if were 75 miles an hour. >> so you're trying to maintain the 55 miles per hour speed limit. are you fighting a losing battle? >> i think politically we are fighting a losing battle. the thing that i think concerns me most is that when we look at our 55 miles per hour highways, people are really exceeding the speed limit there. this is something that peop
law enforcement is already stretched thin. so the notion that we're going to enforce the new speed limits a lot better than the old speed limits is just false. >> well, that's what texas -- in texas they have a highway near austin, a stretch of highway where they will raise the speed limit to 85 miles per hour, and the texas department of transportation says, hey, we can do that because the highway was built expressly for people going fast and it is safer. how do you respond to that?...
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insignificant office that ever well, i guess the laws of physics are more like.. general guidelines. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. >>> it is nobody as the birth place of bluegrass, and it's called the city of firsts. however, this week's vice presidential debate is not the first for the city of danville, kentucky. population just over 16,000. spotlight is not just on the city, but it's on vice president joe biden. comedian and political podcast host, man, your title gets longer every week, ben gleeb is here now. don't screw this up. you're on probation. >> i'll do my best, no promises. >> what
insignificant office that ever well, i guess the laws of physics are more like.. general guidelines. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [...
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moves on to chicago and then harvard law school. but during that time, he forms a kind of theory, which is his big idea, what we call the national intention that he sold to all of us, starting with that speech in boston. it's a fascinating idea that this guy in the depths of despair, a real existential crisis, sorts it out and comes up with something that makes him the president of the united states. >> michael, what's the one or two words to sum up barack obama's character? >> i think he's disappointed. >> disappointed? okay. >> watch the show. you'll see why. >> we'll watch the show. remind us exactly when tomorrow. >> 9:00, pbs. it's in spanish and in english for everybody in america to see. and i hope you do. it may help if you're having trouble deciding who to vote for or you just want to feel good about who it is you are voting for. >> michael kirk, we'll be watching. thank you, sir. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part
moves on to chicago and then harvard law school. but during that time, he forms a kind of theory, which is his big idea, what we call the national intention that he sold to all of us, starting with that speech in boston. it's a fascinating idea that this guy in the depths of despair, a real existential crisis, sorts it out and comes up with something that makes him the president of the united states. >> michael, what's the one or two words to sum up barack obama's character? >> i...
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it's just that the law is not going to be enforced. there's a question rightow that we're still trying network out as to whether they will have to fill out provisional ballots or just vote regularly even if they don't have i.d.. but after november, that pennsylvania law remains in place and they are going to go back to the ole i.d. law idea. >> all right, joe. thank you. good to see you as always. we'll be watching the debate. catch all the debate action right here on cnn. live coverage starts at 7:00 eastern. will israel strike iran? will the stock market dictate a dive? will america get hit with another terrorist attack? those are some of the scenarios that could be an october surprise. we're talking about an event that happens late in the election season that could have a major impact on who wins the white house. dana bash shows us it happened before. >> reporter: election year 1972. the raging unpopular war in vietnam consumed the bitter campaign battle between president nixon and george mcgovern. suddenly on october 26th, 12 days
it's just that the law is not going to be enforced. there's a question rightow that we're still trying network out as to whether they will have to fill out provisional ballots or just vote regularly even if they don't have i.d.. but after november, that pennsylvania law remains in place and they are going to go back to the ole i.d. law idea. >> all right, joe. thank you. good to see you as always. we'll be watching the debate. catch all the debate action right here on cnn. live coverage...
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the law allows it. society doesn't. >> reporter: back at the shelter, the couple knows they've put their family through a lot. but they say they have no regrets. we wouldn't have been killed had it not been for the love commandos. even though they don't know what's next, they're happy to be alive and together. cnn, new delhi. >>> we have live pictures for you now, this is roswell, ynew mexico, as felix baumgartner is getting into this capsule and he is going to start the ascent. the estimated time is 1:40 for launch. he'll go 23 miles up and then jump. what we know is that he's been working for seven years to beat this record. it was held by colonel joe kitinger in 1960. 52 years ago, he jumped from 1002 feet up. this time will be 120,000 feet. imagine if you're on a jetliner and you're flying cross-country. you're at about 35,000 to 40,000 feet. he's going up to 120,000. he'll get out it to the end of the capsule and he will jump wearing his pressurized suit, wears about 100 pounds. and he will fl 115,
the law allows it. society doesn't. >> reporter: back at the shelter, the couple knows they've put their family through a lot. but they say they have no regrets. we wouldn't have been killed had it not been for the love commandos. even though they don't know what's next, they're happy to be alive and together. cnn, new delhi. >>> we have live pictures for you now, this is roswell, ynew mexico, as felix baumgartner is getting into this capsule and he is going to start the ascent....
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now lacks have approved a wildlife conservation law that's going to make costa rica the first latin american country to ban hunting. some native species that will be protected are jaguars, puma, and sea turtles. >>> ahead in the newsroom international, another deadly shooting on a college campus. this time it happened in nigeria. i'm barack obama and i approve this message. romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple checking hydraulics. the evening brings more pain. so, back to more pills. almost done, when... hang on. stan's doctor recommended aleve. it can keep pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. t
now lacks have approved a wildlife conservation law that's going to make costa rica the first latin american country to ban hunting. some native species that will be protected are jaguars, puma, and sea turtles. >>> ahead in the newsroom international, another deadly shooting on a college campus. this time it happened in nigeria. i'm barack obama and i approve this message. romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of...
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post" interview he said during the shooting spree he sometimes went to the news conferences held by law enforcement officials. malvo said he went to the events for, "intelligence collection." brian todd, cnn, washington. >>> priceless works of art ruined. the word of a modern american master is defaced at a museum. c. but mr. single miles can't join his friends because he's getting hit with blackouts. shame on you. now he's stuck in a miniature nightmare. oh, thank you. but, with the capital one venture card... you can fly any airline, any flight, any time. double miles you can actually use. what's in your wallet? alec jr? it was a gift. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ]
post" interview he said during the shooting spree he sometimes went to the news conferences held by law enforcement officials. malvo said he went to the events for, "intelligence collection." brian todd, cnn, washington. >>> priceless works of art ruined. the word of a modern american master is defaced at a museum. c. but mr. single miles can't join his friends because he's getting hit with blackouts. shame on you. now he's stuck in a miniature nightmare. oh, thank you....
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well, i guess the laws of physics are more like.. general guidelines. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. >>> breaking news here. we're going to talk about turkey and syria. because thi
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law. >> joined by our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. you've been digging into this for new information. you say as early as april, the united states sent special forces into benghazi for a specific reason. >> they did, indeed, carol. what we've learned is that a very small team of special forces commandos were sent to that benghazi compound. this was back in april. if you think back a u.n. -- united nations convoy in the region had been attacked. growing security concerns at that time back in april, about what was going on in that region in eastern libya. so, the u.s. sent a team of about four special forces, commandos to the benghazi compound. they did a security assessment. what could be done to improve security at the facility. and they recommended apparently, we are told, a couple of things that seem fairly minor in retrospect. sand bagging some positions so libyan forces who were there, contractors, essentially, could help fight back if the place came under attack and also wer
law. >> joined by our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. you've been digging into this for new information. you say as early as april, the united states sent special forces into benghazi for a specific reason. >> they did, indeed, carol. what we've learned is that a very small team of special forces commandos were sent to that benghazi compound. this was back in april. if you think back a u.n. -- united nations convoy in the region had been attacked. growing security concerns at...
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i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and save you up to thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand what medicare is all about. and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never n
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. >> you don't have the right in this country, according to the laws of our land. >> that's incorrect. >> you don't have the right to endorse a candidate in church. >> no, it's never been taken to court. for 58 years they've been trying to provoke it to court to see if it's constitutional or not. it's not gotten there. there have been many, many attempts. if it's all that unconstitutional, let's get it to court and decide. the pastor should be able to speak on biblic al topics. freedom of religion and freedom of speech. >> if you feel so strongly that your political voice should be heard, why not give up your tax exempt status? why challenge the irs this way? >> well, take that up with thomas jeffersonnd benjamin franklin. they said there should be true separation of church and state. that means that would include such a thing as tax exemption. supreme court would later say if the government can tax a church, it can control it and manipulate it. most people would not want their pastors to be controlled and manipulated by the state even in the arena of speech restriction as well. that'
. >> you don't have the right in this country, according to the laws of our land. >> that's incorrect. >> you don't have the right to endorse a candidate in church. >> no, it's never been taken to court. for 58 years they've been trying to provoke it to court to see if it's constitutional or not. it's not gotten there. there have been many, many attempts. if it's all that unconstitutional, let's get it to court and decide. the pastor should be able to speak on biblic al...
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now, candidate romney says he opposes any new laws. >> we need a president who will enforce current laws, not create new ones that only serve to burden lawful gun owners. >> reporter: after aurora, mr. obama stressed the need for a ban on assault weapons. so that's a yes. >> a lot of gun owners would agree that ak-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals. >> reporter: the reason obama's yes has an asterisk is that in four years, no new gun control laws have been enacted. in fact, under obama's watch, concealed weapons are now allowed on amtrak trains and in national parks. >> he's continued to pay lip service to those things. but he hasn't shown real leadership in pursuing those changes. >> reporter: yes, background checks have gotten more thorough under obama. where people legally buying guns in gun shops. but the big problem remains gun shows and the internet. specifically, unlicensed dealers selling firearms to buyers with no background check needed. president obama has supported closing the gun show loophole in the past. but the white house says his focus no
now, candidate romney says he opposes any new laws. >> we need a president who will enforce current laws, not create new ones that only serve to burden lawful gun owners. >> reporter: after aurora, mr. obama stressed the need for a ban on assault weapons. so that's a yes. >> a lot of gun owners would agree that ak-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals. >> reporter: the reason obama's yes has an asterisk is that in four years, no new gun...
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do you think laws have to come down harder on the buyers, the people who are putting the money out? >> i think so. i think we need to treat the men that are clients of women in the sex trafficking industry as part of the conspiracy, as part of the conspiracy to kidnap, to imprison, to enslave into traffic these women. >> reporter: minnesota's cracking down with tougher laws. this man, arrested after answering ads on backpage.com and engaging in prostitution with minors, is the first john in the state to be charged not with the usual misdemeanors, but with felonies. he's pleaded guilty and could serve up to ten years in prison for each count. >> this isn't just somebody who is worth $500 to you for an hour. this is someone's daughter. this is someone's sister. these people have a reason that they're here and it's not a good reason. >> reporter: along with tougher charges, the surge in child sex trafficking prompted minnesota to reclassify children arrested for prostitution. instead of criminals, they are now being treated as victims. >> we will no longer prosecute children who are be
do you think laws have to come down harder on the buyers, the people who are putting the money out? >> i think so. i think we need to treat the men that are clients of women in the sex trafficking industry as part of the conspiracy, as part of the conspiracy to kidnap, to imprison, to enslave into traffic these women. >> reporter: minnesota's cracking down with tougher laws. this man, arrested after answering ads on backpage.com and engaging in prostitution with minors, is the first...
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. >>> and he robbed banks and then he gets a full ride to law school. why? because of what he did behind bars. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not just these owners giving the volt high praise. volt received the j.d. power and associates appeal award two years in a row. ♪ appeal award two years in a row. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a
. >>> and he robbed banks and then he gets a full ride to law school. why? because of what he did behind bars. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. [ male announcer ] and it's not just these owners giving the volt high praise. volt...
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but that's already the law. and that doesn't help the millions of people out there with preexisting conditions. there's a reason why governor romney set up the plan that he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government takeover of health care. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is, insurers, you've got to take everybody. now, that also means that you've got more customers. but when governor romney says that he'll replace it with something but can't detail how it will be, in fact, replaced, and the reason he set up the system he did in massachusetts is because there isn't a better way of dealing with the preexisting conditions problem. it just reminds me he says he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan. that's how it's going to be paid for, but we don't know the details. he says that he's going to replace dodd-frank, wall street reform, but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us. he now says he's going to replace obama care and assure that all t
but that's already the law. and that doesn't help the millions of people out there with preexisting conditions. there's a reason why governor romney set up the plan that he did in massachusetts. it wasn't a government takeover of health care. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. but what it does say is, insurers, you've got to take everybody. now, that also means that you've got more customers. but when governor romney says that he'll replace it with something but can't detail how...
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and he said that the law made it very clear he could have sentenced him to hundreds of years, but he said that he felt as though a sentenceike that would have been abstract, and he wanted something to issue a sentence that was more realistic. and something that would be felt not only by jerry sandusky, but the victims themselves. had an opportunity when they sentencing was over, spoke to many of the victims' attorneys and they're satisfied with this sentence, but a woman came up to me and just before i was about to go on earlier today and she said, what did he get? i said he got a minimum of 30, a maximum of 60. she said, you know, 30 years times ten, times 100, still wouldn't be enough for what he did to those young men and this community. >> i want to play, if i can here, jason, i want to play another portion of the audio he released last night, jerry sandusky released, suggesting he, again, is the victim here. listen. >> the young man who is dramatic, veteran accuser and always sough attention started everything. he was joined by a well orchestrated effort of the media, investigat
and he said that the law made it very clear he could have sentenced him to hundreds of years, but he said that he felt as though a sentenceike that would have been abstract, and he wanted something to issue a sentence that was more realistic. and something that would be felt not only by jerry sandusky, but the victims themselves. had an opportunity when they sentencing was over, spoke to many of the victims' attorneys and they're satisfied with this sentence, but a woman came up to me and just...
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look, ultimately the law is the law and not surprising, brooke, you have people on both sides as you mentioned and some people believe that it is appropriate, okay? however the american psychological association has come out and said, it is junk science, it can lead to depression, suicide, it is just not something we should be undertaking. not surprising, brooke, there is a lawsuit, what does the lawsuit do? it says, look, not so fast, let's impose an injunction upon the law that says let's halt it, stop it, stay it and have a debate on this issue. and what the debate should say is you're violating my rights. how? these are parents who have the right to decide how their kids are growing up. therefore, this law takes that right away from them and says the state will now determine what is appropriate and what is not appropriate. so not surprisingly, there are groups out there and there is a lawsuit in the mix which may very well stay this particular -- >> not just one. david pickup who spoke with me from narth said he too -- they too are filing a suit, so two suits. two suits into this
look, ultimately the law is the law and not surprising, brooke, you have people on both sides as you mentioned and some people believe that it is appropriate, okay? however the american psychological association has come out and said, it is junk science, it can lead to depression, suicide, it is just not something we should be undertaking. not surprising, brooke, there is a lawsuit, what does the lawsuit do? it says, look, not so fast, let's impose an injunction upon the law that says let's...
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. >> he's not trying to move the law radically, quickly. i think justice scalia or justice thomas really want to get to the end answer as quickly as possible and make the law conform to what they really understand whereas the chief justice is more incrementalist. >> reporter: conservative court watcher carry severino doesn't believe much will change any time soon. >> certainly this is not a crusading con serbtive court. until we have a shift, i think, in the membership of the court it's impossible to call it a court that leans more to the left or to the right. >> let's bring in joe johns. joe, could this term possibly be as important as the last one? that's hard to imagine. >> reporter: carol, it certainly has that potential. just the question of revisiting race based preferences in university admissions. this is an issue they decided just a few years ago. now they're back. the difference is the court's been reconstituted. now the swing vote is no longer one justice. it's another justice. there are other issues certainly that could be big.
. >> he's not trying to move the law radically, quickly. i think justice scalia or justice thomas really want to get to the end answer as quickly as possible and make the law conform to what they really understand whereas the chief justice is more incrementalist. >> reporter: conservative court watcher carry severino doesn't believe much will change any time soon. >> certainly this is not a crusading con serbtive court. until we have a shift, i think, in the membership of the...
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law. >>> dinner time means family time at the skillman household, from who is chopping to who's stirring. to who's sitting around the table and who soon won't. how hard is this for your family? >> not real sure. i don't think it's hit them yet. i really don't. >> reporter: a grandfather to three girls, his other title is master sergeant dan skillman, u.s. army reserves. he deploys to afghanistan in weeks, with his wife, master sergeant lola skillman and their oldest son, james, a sergeant. husband, wife, and son will be gone nine months as reserve support at kandahar. despite the 29 years that lola served, this will be her first time deployed to a war zone. are you scared at all? >> yes. some people say no, they're not scared, they're ready to go do this. but i think in the back of everybody's mind it is a little bit terrifying. >> reporter: at the skillman home where the unpaved road meets a montana big sky, they know about sacrifice for country. lola's father was awarded the purple heart
law. >>> dinner time means family time at the skillman household, from who is chopping to who's stirring. to who's sitting around the table and who soon won't. how hard is this for your family? >> not real sure. i don't think it's hit them yet. i really don't. >> reporter: a grandfather to three girls, his other title is master sergeant dan skillman, u.s. army reserves. he deploys to afghanistan in weeks, with his wife, master sergeant lola skillman and their oldest son,...
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now, due process of law is more than just showing up at court. having an attorney who can ask good questions and having your day in court and the court that decides or a jury decides your guilt and innocence. it also includes the concept of being able to properly and adequately prepare your defense before you show up in court. >> so we've heard this before. in fact, we heard it in the audio tape recordings that jerry sandusky made while in jail and released to a campus radio station. our legal analyst paul callan is here to parse this out. does joe amendola have a good case? >> it's actually a very unusual claim. in most states and the u.s. constitution guarantees you to a right to a speedy trial, not a slow trial. amendola makes -- i think he makes an argument that certainly the court will look at. in a very complex case, you certainly have to give the defense time to prepare. now, his strongest argument is that the second indictment in this case was handed down in december of 2011. they were picking a jury by june, and there was a lot that had
now, due process of law is more than just showing up at court. having an attorney who can ask good questions and having your day in court and the court that decides or a jury decides your guilt and innocence. it also includes the concept of being able to properly and adequately prepare your defense before you show up in court. >> so we've heard this before. in fact, we heard it in the audio tape recordings that jerry sandusky made while in jail and released to a campus radio station. our...